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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 01-12-2017, 02:51 PM
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10 years ago that would have been cool but these days that's completely unacceptable. But they're lucky that buyers in this segment won't complain about it much, or at least they shouldn't. Still, keeping with the times and having a knob selector would have been a better way out and a long term solution on multiple vehicles. Starting to think I should work for them
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Lol you definitely have the better idea for a shifter, they should be paying you for this!

I think it's absurd.. why the need for an individual button for each "gear"
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How about next time just do voice activated shifter lol?
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It may be too much of a jump, we have to go through hand gesture activation, and then voice activation right after
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At least wait until BMW works the kink out for the 7-series
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We have a 2015 Terrain SLT(one step down from a Denali) with 42,000 miles and really like it. It has the 2.4l with AWD which can be a bit of a dog but I tuned the ECU and it surprisingly quick when your foot is in it. It is fast enough for my wife who crusies at 80+ mph and survived many miles out west in the mountains spending many miles at 5,000+ rpms and was never without power.

That 6,000 mile trek had us and the dog very acquainted with the Terrain. It is a little more roomier than the Envision Premium ll which we picked up for $35K with 3,000 miles to replace it. If the Terrain had the 2.0T from the start we would probably would have purchased it outright as she likes the boxy shape. She is not to keen on the 2018 Terrain as it lost it's individuality. I personally do not like the stiff front seats in the Terrain and think the stiffer springs make it more truck-like. But I'm coming from Buick Verano/Encore and Cadillac ATS/XTS. The GMC has to play a middle ground to the SRX at the time and the lessor Chevrolet Equinox.

Funny thing is I let her take the Envision when I was changing the oil and rotating the tires after the trip out west. She gets back in the Terrain and ask why her car rides so bad and asked what I did to it. She got used to that Buick ride and it does ride good.

We just had my Dad out for Father's Day and was showing him how the Driver Confidence Package allows the car to steering between the lines. He was impressed. We were commenting on where to go for desert and said we should avoid some construction areas due to construction and and rougher roads. My Dad pipes up and says the rough roads wouldn't matter in the Buick it rides so well.

As you can guess the Envision has a rubber mounted subframe and really floats over the railroad tracks near work. The hyperstrut front end(with AWD) is very direct and much more athletic than most everything in the sub-$30,000 range. We rented a 2017 Ford Escape SE AWD to drive 450 miles out of state to pick up the Envision and I couldn't wait to get out of the stiff, foam seats. I thought I was going to end the 7 hour trip with tinnitus it was so noisy and the steering so bad. I love the calibrating they did to throttle input and smooth transmission tuning we averaged 32.3 mpg with the cruise control set at 65 mph. And like the soft headrests. But it had me wondering what Ford does to pull the Lincoln MKC that many have raved about.

I'm averaging about 25 mpg on my 8 mile commute of half highway/half city. Best 25 mile average was 30 mpg. The stop/start works well and is non-intrusive. We have 5,000 miles now on it and love the electronic nanny's as they work well. The rear climate control is nice with it's vents the Terrain doesn't have. I can also control the rear seat climate from the front too.
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We have a 2015 Terrain SLT(one step down from a Denali) with 42,000 miles and really like it. It has the 2.4l with AWD which can be a bit of a dog but I tuned the ECU and it surprisingly quick when your foot is in it. It is fast enough for my wife who crusies at 80+ mph and survived many miles out west in the mountains spending many miles at 5,000+ rpms and was never without power.

That 6,000 mile trek had us and the dog very acquainted with the Terrain. It is a little more roomier than the Envision Premium ll which we picked up for $35K with 3,000 miles to replace it. If the Terrain had the 2.0T from the start we would probably would have purchased it outright as she likes the boxy shape. She is not to keen on the 2018 Terrain as it lost it's individuality. I personally do not like the stiff front seats in the Terrain and think the stiffer springs make it more truck-like. But I'm coming from Buick Verano/Encore and Cadillac ATS/XTS. The GMC has to play a middle ground to the SRX at the time and the lessor Chevrolet Equinox.

Funny thing is I let her take the Envision when I was changing the oil and rotating the tires after the trip out west. She gets back in the Terrain and ask why her car rides so bad and asked what I did to it. She got used to that Buick ride and it does ride good.

We just had my Dad out for Father's Day and was showing him how the Driver Confidence Package allows the car to steering between the lines. He was impressed. We were commenting on where to go for desert and said we should avoid some construction areas due to construction and and rougher roads. My Dad pipes up and says the rough roads wouldn't matter in the Buick it rides so well.

As you can guess the Envision has a rubber mounted subframe and really floats over the railroad tracks near work. The hyperstrut front end(with AWD) is very direct and much more athletic than most everything in the sub-$30,000 range. We rented a 2017 Ford Escape SE AWD to drive 450 miles out of state to pick up the Envision and I couldn't wait to get out of the stiff, foam seats. I thought I was going to end the 7 hour trip with tinnitus it was so noisy and the steering so bad. I love the calibrating they did to throttle input and smooth transmission tuning we averaged 32.3 mpg with the cruise control set at 65 mph. And like the soft headrests. But it had me wondering what Ford does to pull the Lincoln MKC that many have raved about.

I'm averaging about 25 mpg on my 8 mile commute of half highway/half city. Best 25 mile average was 30 mpg. The stop/start works well and is non-intrusive. We have 5,000 miles now on it and love the electronic nanny's as they work well. The rear climate control is nice with it's vents the Terrain doesn't have. I can also control the rear seat climate from the front too.
I was just gonna say I received like 9 notifs from you liking a message haha. Did you come from Terrainforum? I kinda felt like the Terrain is a little stiff. I'm coming from a 2012 SLE2 with the V6. The 3.0 is adequate but it can be a little underwhelming at times. I've been avging about 20-21 mpg in mix driving so it's definitely Italy not too bad being a V6. I honestly just didn't like the fact that it just doesn't have air vents for back passengers in addition of mine being a jet black interior.
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Only on Terrain Facebook page. I'm on both Envision forums and Facebook page.

On Father's Day it was low 90's and the Terrain is black/black and with no rear air vents it sat and we took the Envision. I had my Dad sit in the front to enjoy the vented seats. He got kick out the Lane Keep Assist as the Buick slowly isolated off the lane markings. He got a kick out the Buick logo lighting the ground when the front door was opened.
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Only on Terrain Facebook page. I'm on both Envision forums and Facebook page.

On Father's Day it was low 90's and the Terrain is black/black and with no rear air vents it sat and we took the Envision. I had my Dad sit in the front to enjoy the vented seats. He got kick out the Lane Keep Assist as the Buick slowly isolated off the lane markings. He got a kick out the Buick logo lighting the ground when the front door was opened.
I think I remember you! I'm on the Facebook page for the terrain as well
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