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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-08-2018, 07:21 PM
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Arrived today and works like a charm ....thanks again.
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The S/S on my Envision'16 has failed twice, approximately 6 months apart. I had to shift into N or Park to restart. Has this happened to anyone else? If I can't replicate the problem, GM can't fix it!
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(I'm thinking frogg's module find might be the answer for peace of mind at least.)
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The S/S on my Envision'16 has failed twice, approximately 6 months apart. I had to shift into N or Park to restart. Has this happened to anyone else? If I can't replicate the problem, GM can't fix it!
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(I'm thinking frogg's module find might be the answer for peace of mind at least.)
I think the module for 139 bucks is cheap peace of mind....... for anyone, but especially for you and the issues you have had. And, like I think I mentioned, in the event you install it then for some reason you wish to drive with the auto stop start engaged, there is a way to do it easily from inside the car. I don't ever see myself doing that, but there is a way to do it.

Can't say enough good things about how quickly I received the module and how detailed and accurate the installation instructions are. Thanks again frogg.

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Instructions state that using remote start with the device installed can be tricky, but I don't use remote start anyway.
28 degrees this morning, so I decided to remote start my vehicle. Nope, couldn't get it to work. And if you fail on the first attempt, you have to wait another 20 minutes to try again. So I've been trying every 30 minutes or so for the past 3 hours. Still can't get it to work despite the instructions on their website:


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Fast button press sequence is now required. When initiating Remote Start with the key fob, after you QUICKLY depress the key fob LOCK button you must begin pressing the Remote Start button IMMEDIATELY (and hold it for at least 4 seconds as usual). If you hold the LOCK button too long, or do not press these buttons in very quick succession the Remote Start may fail and it might also set off the security alarm (pressing LOCK or UNLOCK will cancel the alarm). If the Remote Start fails, do not attempt it again for 20 minutes since it will not work. Manually start the car instead for this drive.
If I have to live without remote start this winter, no big deal. I've never had remote start on any vehicle prior to this anyway. Small inconvenience, but if I have to give up remote start to get the start/stop override, I'll take it!
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Tried the quick Button pressing technique and it works for our vehicle. You have to hold down the start button for what seems like an exorbitantly long time. Not a big deal once you know this is the way it operates..

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Come to find out, I've been doing it wrong all this time. When I bought the vehicle, the salesman showed me how to use the remote start. He said "You have to push the lock button twice and then hold down the remote start button for at least 4 seconds." So that's how I've been using the remote start, prior to getting the stop/start override module installed. So when I did the double press of the lock button this morning, it wouldn't work. On a whim, later in the day today, I tried it by just pushing the lock button once, and it worked! And then I looked in the Envision manual (which I should have done a long time ago) and it states to push it once before pushing the remote start button. Bonehead salesman had me doing it wrong the entire time! (even though it did actually work that way, but the extra button push was not necessary).


So yeah, the remote start DOES work for me now. :-)

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Glad you were able to get it straightened out.

Something else, is that the doors have to already be locked, before you hit the lock button and then the remote start button, at least with the bypass installed.

I was experimenting last night with it after reading your post, and that is also something I discovered. I don't know how, or recall, whether that would be an issue with out the bypass. But in any event, if the doors are not locked, you can't lock the doors and then start the car. In other words the doors have to be locked already, then 20 minutes has to pass,then you hit the lock button once and then press and hold the start button with the bypass. Might be the same without the bypass (Except for the 20 minute wait), I don't know. Sounds confusing but it will be second nature very soon. For anyone thinking about getting this bypass, trust me, it really is not as confusing as it sounds. Just seems like JT and I have found ways to mess up the sequence - We must be talented!

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Haha. Well, I've been very diligent about pushing the lock button once and then pushing the start button quickly, and it's been working like a charm. I always lock my vehicle, so I haven't run into the lock-lock-start situation since I discovered I only needed to push the lock button once. :-)
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post #20 of 24 (permalink) Old 02-18-2019, 05:33 PM
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Oh, I forgot to mention, the operation for adding additional time to the vehicle running works even with the start/stop override module installed. This is nice for those of us in especially cold climates where 10 minutes of idling is not enough time to properly defrost the windows or heat up the interior. After the initial remote start, wait about 30 seconds and then push the door lock and remote start button once again. This will now allow the vehicle to idle for 20 minutes.
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