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2017 Envision vs 2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring
Hi folks. I'm new to these forums, and jpined because I'm on the cusp of purchasing a 2017 Envision. Have a few questions for y'all.
This is the Envision I am looking at:
Navigation, Sunroof, Heated Leather Seats, Rear Air, Heated Rear Seat. CHILI RED METALLIC exterior and EBONY interior, Essence trim SEE MORE!

Leather Seats, Power Liftgate, Rear Air, Heated Driver Seat, Heated Rear Seat, Back-Up Camera, Onboard Communications System, Aluminum Wheels, Remote Engine Start, Dual Zone A/C, Heated Seats, Heated Leather Seats Buick Essence with CHILI RED METALLIC exterior and EBONY interior features a 4 Cylinder Engine.

MOONROOF, POWER, OVERSIZED, TILT-SLIDING, AUDIO SYSTEM, BUICK INTELLILINK RADIO WITH NAVIGATION, AM/FM STEREO, SIRIUSXM with 8" diagonal Color Touch Screen, includes 2 USB ports inside center console, auxiliary input jack, and Bluetooth streaming for audio and select phones and Phone Integration for Apple CarPlay and Android Auto capability for compatible phone, CHILI RED METALLILC, TRANSMISSION, 6-SPEED AUTOMATIC, ELECTRONICALLY-CONTROLLED with Driver Shift Control (STD), ENGINE, 2.5L DOHC 4-CYLINDER SIDI with Variable Valve Timing (VVT) with E85 capability (197 hp [147 kW] @ 6300 rpm, 192 lb-ft of torque [260 N-m] @ 4400 rpm) (STD), ESSENCE PREFERRED EQUIPMENT GROUP Includes standard equipment. Keyless Entry, Privacy Glass, Remote Trunk Release, Steering Wheel Controls, Child Safety Locks.

Out the door price is $33,600.00.

The other I'm looking at is this:
2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring
2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring 2.5L 4 cyls It's ready for anything!!!! Come and get it.. ATTENTION! One of the best things about this 2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring is something you can't see, but you'll be thankful for it every time you pull up to the pump... Safety equipment includes: ABS, Traction control, Curtain airbags, Passenger Airbag, Front fog/driving lights...Other features include: Leather seats, Navigation, wireless phone connectivity, Power locks, Power windows...
MAZDA CONNECT™ Infotainment System -inc: Aha Internet Radio, Pandora Internet Radio, Infotainment System Voice Command, E911 Automatic Emergency Notification, Stitcher Internet Radio, Radio Broadcast Data System Program Information, SMS Text Msg Audio Delivery & Reply
4.324 Axle Ratio
GVWR: 4,515 lbs
Front-Wheel Drive
Battery w/Run Down Protection
100 Amp Alternator
Gas-Pressurized Shock Absorbers
Front And Rear Anti-Roll Bars
Electric Power-Assist Speed-Sensing Steering
14.8 Gal. Fuel Tank
Quasi-Dual Stainless Steel Exhaust w/Chrome Tailpipe Finisher
Strut Front Suspension w/Coil Springs
Multi-Link Rear Suspension w/Coil Springs
4-Wheel Disc Brakes w/4-Wheel ABS, Front Vented Discs, Brake Assist, Hill Hold Control and Electric Parking Brake
Wheels: 19 x 7J Aluminum Alloy -inc: dark graphite w/machine finished face
Tires: P225/55R19
Steel Spare Wheel
Compact Spare Tire Mounted Inside Under Cargo
Clearcoat Paint
Express Open Sliding And Tilting Glass 1st Row Sunroof w/Sunshade
Body-Colored Front Bumper w/Black Rub Strip/Fascia Accent
Body-Colored Rear Bumper w/Black Rub Strip/Fascia Accent
Black Bodyside Cladding and Black Wheel Well Trim
Chrome Side Windows Trim
Body-Colored Door Handles
Body-Colored Power Heated Side Mirrors w/Manual Folding and Turn Signal Indicator
Fixed Rear Window w/Fixed Interval Wiper, Heated Wiper Park and Defroster
Deep Tinted Glass
Rain Detecting Variable Intermittent Wipers
Fully Galvanized Steel Panels
Lip Spoiler
Black Grille w/Chrome Accents
Power Liftgate Rear Cargo Access
Tailgate/Rear Door Lock Included w/Power Door Locks
Fully Automatic Projector Beam Led Low/High Beam Daytime Running Auto-Leveling Directionally Adaptive Auto High-Beam Headlamps w/Delay-Off
Front Fog Lamps
Radio: AM/FM/HD Modular Audio System w/Bose -inc: 7" full-color touch-screen display, digital clock, audio menu voice-command, auxiliary audio input jack, Bluetooth hands free phone and audio, multi-function Commander Control, satellite radio-compatible audio system, SiriusXM satellite radio w/4 month subscription, and 4 USB audio inputs, Aha Internet Radio, Pandora Internet Radio, Infotainment System Voice Command, E911 Automatic Emergency Notification, Stitcher Internet Radio, Radio Broadcast Data System Program Information, SMS Text Msg Audio Delivery & Reply
Radio w/Seek-Scan, Clock, Steering Wheel Controls and Radio Data System
Integrated Roof Antenna
Bose 10-Speaker Audio Sound System -inc: Centerpoint2 and AudioPilot2
1 LCD Monitor In The Front
Heated Front Sport Shape Seats -inc: 8-way power adjustable driver's seat w/power lumbar support, and 6-way manual passenger seat
40-20-40 Folding Bench Front Facing Manual Reclining Fold Forward Seatback Rear Seat
Manual Tilt/Telescoping Steering Column
Gauges -inc: Speedometer, Odometer, Tachometer, Trip Odometer and Trip Computer
Power Rear Windows and Fixed 3rd Row Windows
Selective Service Internet Access
Leather/Metal-Look Steering Wheel
Front Cupholder
Rear Cupholder
Proximity Key For Doors And Push Button Start
Remote Keyless Entry w/Integrated Key Transmitter, Illuminated Entry, Illuminated Ignition Switch and Panic Button
Remote Releases -Inc: Power Cargo Access and Mechanical Fuel
Garage Door Transmitter
Cruise Control w/Steering Wheel Controls
Distance Pacing
Dual Zone Front Automatic Air Conditioning
HVAC -inc: Underseat Ducts and Console Ducts
Glove Box
Driver Foot Rest
Interior Trim -inc: Metal-Look Instrument Panel Insert, Metal-Look Door Panel Insert and Metal-Look Interior Accents
Full Cloth Headliner
Leatherette Door Trim Insert
Leather Gear Shift Knob
Leather Seat Trim
Driver And Passenger Visor Vanity Mirrors w/Driver And Passenger Illumination, Driver And Passenger Auxiliary Mirror
Day-Night Auto-Dimming Rearview Mirror
Full Floor Console w/Covered Storage, Mini Overhead Console w/Storage and 2 12V DC Power Outlets
Front And Rear Map Lights
Fade-To-Off Interior Lighting
Full Carpet Floor Covering -inc: Carpet Front And Rear Floor Mats
Carpet Floor Trim
Trunk/Hatch Auto-Latch
Cargo Space Lights
Mazda Navigation System
Instrument Panel Bin, Driver / Passenger And Rear Door Bins
Power 1st Row Windows w/Driver 1-Touch Up/Down
Delayed Accessory Power
Power Door Locks w/Autolock Feature
Trip Computer
Outside Temp Gauge
Digital/Analog Display
Seats w/Leatherette Back Material
Manual Adjustable Front Head Restraints and Manual Adjustable Rear Head Restraints
Front Center Armrest and Rear Center Armrest
2 Seatback Storage Pockets
2 12V DC Power Outlets
Air Filtration
Electronic Stability Control (ESC)
ABS And Driveline Traction Control
Side Impact Beams
Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Seat-Mounted Side Airbags
Emergency S.O.S
Blind Spot Monitoring Blind Spot Sensor
Smart Brake Support Forward Collision and Rear Cross Traffic Alert Rear Collision
Lane Keep Assist System Lane Keeping Assist
Lane Keep Assist System Lane Departure Warning
Low Tire Pressure Warning
Dual Stage Driver And Passenger Front Airbags
Curtain 1st And 2nd Row Airbags
Airbag Occupancy Sensor
Rear Child Safety Locks
Outboard Front Lap And Shoulder Safety Belts -inc: Rear Center 3 Point, Height Adjusters and Pretensioners
Back-Up Camera

Price on this Mazda is $30,942.00 out the door.

Any feedback? Thanks for any help.
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What dealership? I'm seeing Essence fwd with roof and Nav in red in the continental US for $28,400-29,000 from a MSRP of $39-41, or about $11,000-12,000 off.

You can shop and compare to other dealerahips naton wide on a number of online for sale websites like cars com, autotrader, and cargurus.

The CX-5 will be a little smaller and not as quiet as the Envision as it is more luxury than sport. The Buick will have a longer standard warranty, offer free oil changes and tire rotations on the first two visits.

Mazda has only a 34% retention rate on returning customers or one of the worst amongst other automakers.

Drive the Buick first and then the Mazda and you'll see the differences. Supposedly the Mazda has a near-luxury interior and quality materials with a firmer, athletic drive.

Thanks for the response. That price on the Envision is an otd price, so $30,003 + tt&l and fees brings it to $33600. The Mazda feels a little peppier and steering is sportier feeling, but it all seems so less luxurious compared to the Buick, but the Mazda is less expensive. One of the things I read was that the Mazda loses ~25% of its value in the first year, and that is depressing. I will check those sites and see if I can find an equal Buick for a lesser price. Thanks again for the advice.

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All depends on how long you are going to own it before trading it in. You can see what new prices the dealerships are offering and then compare used prices on KBB.com or nada.com. The Envision hit the lots early summer 2016 so used prices are haven't dropped much. The domestics usually have thousands on the hood which basically negates Japanese residuals for over thr life of the car.

Earlier in thr month 2017 Premium l were advertised at $29,999 from $43K! The Premium l will have 2.0T with AWD, heated heats and steering wheel, NAV, and tri-zone climate control. Along with cross traffic alert for backing out of blind parking spots. All depends on what options you want.
Funny, I've been looking since October and I havent seen the Envisions this low till December. Whats even curiouser is that just about everyone is deep discounting except Ford. I have been watching the Edge also, and they only have 4500 of incentives.
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