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I've seen the new 2021 Envision Avenir and like it very much. Are there any new owners of this car that can share their thoughts on their choice of purchase and talk about about how much discount off MSRP they paid ?? Thanks.
 

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Hello All -
I've seen the new 2021 Envision Avenir and like it very much. Are there any new owners of this car that can share their thoughts on their choice of purchase and talk about about how much discount off MSRP they paid ?? Thanks.
I just bought one. Actually, I'm leasing it so can't comment too much on discounts, but I don't think they're offering much on these yet. I think the final price was $42k, the sticker was $47k.

I will say I love it. Beautiful interior, quiet ride, adequate/good acceleration, easy to use tech. The only things that the one I bought do not have are auto-folding mirrors and auto-sensing wipers. I find the adaptive cruise to be very responsive. All in all, very very happy so far.
 

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I just bought one. Actually, I'm leasing it so can't comment too much on discounts, but I don't think they're offering much on these yet. I think the final price was $42k, the sticker was $47k.

I will say I love it. Beautiful interior, quiet ride, adequate/good acceleration, easy to use tech. The only things that the one I bought do not have are auto-folding mirrors and auto-sensing wipers. I find the adaptive cruise to be very responsive. All in all, very very happy so far.
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.
 

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I'm considering an '21 Essence AWD now, but probably waiting until more incentives drop. Looking forward to hearing feedback from others who have purchased a '21.
 

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I just bought one. Actually, I'm leasing it so can't comment too much on discounts, but I don't think they're offering much on these yet. I think the final price was $42k, the sticker was $47k.

I will say I love it. Beautiful interior, quiet ride, adequate/good acceleration, easy to use tech. The only things that the one I bought do not have are auto-folding mirrors and auto-sensing wipers. I find the adaptive cruise to be very responsive. All in all, very very happy so far.
Auto-folding mirrors are not available on any trim, so you aren't really missing anything there. Auto-sensing wipers might be available as the manual mentions available Rainsense wipers, however it does not appear anywhere on Buick's configurator as being available. Buick's online configurator is great for building and pricing, but their trim comparison feature is not the most intuitive thing to use. It feels like it is leaving out a lot of features that people would be interested in knowing about.
 

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Auto-folding mirrors are not available on any trim, so you aren't really missing anything there. Auto-sensing wipers might be available as the manual mentions available Rainsense wipers, however it does not appear anywhere on Buick's configurator as being available. Buick's online configurator is great for building and pricing, but their trim comparison feature is not the most intuitive thing to use. It feels like it is leaving out a lot of features that people would be interested in knowing about.
I think I heard/knew somehow that auto-folding mirrors weren't available. But as you say, the manual talks about rain-sensing wipers. Both my stepmother and I just purchased an avenir, and neither has that feature. I'm fine with it, just curious if you can even get it.
 

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It's crazy that Buick has apparently dropped Rainsense wipers on the '21 Envision, regardless of trim. I checked the GM Online Order Guide for the '21 Envision, and there's no mention of Rainsense wipers in there. :( Although I do see Rainsense is mentioned in both the Owner's Manual and the "Getting To Know Your 2021 Envision" quick reference guide. I've sent a message to GM inquiring about this. Without Rainsense, the '21 Envision Avenir is a no-go for me.
 

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GM has been doing some very strange things lately with vehicles. The Rainsense option here. Announcing an Envision GX 3-row variant (what is the point with the Enclave already on lots?) Dropping the 2.0 Turbo in the Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain in 2021, then announcing it would be back for 2022, then announcing last week that it is not coming back at all. Little things like that. It is almost like they are just "phoning it in" at this point and spending as little development money as possible on existing models. GM has committed to selling only zero emissions vehicles by 2035, so perhaps they are focusing on that initiative and are starting to sunset their fully ICE vehicles. However, it would be short sighted of them to alienate their existing and potential customers right now.
 

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GM has been doing some very strange things lately with vehicles. The Rainsense option here. Announcing an Envision GX 3-row variant (what is the point with the Enclave already on lots?) Dropping the 2.0 Turbo in the Chevy Equinox and GMC Terrain in 2021, then announcing it would be back for 2022, then announcing last week that it is not coming back at all. Little things like that. It is almost like they are just "phoning it in" at this point and spending as little development money as possible on existing models. GM has committed to selling only zero emissions vehicles by 2035, so perhaps they are focusing on that initiative and are starting to sunset their fully ICE vehicles. However, it would be short sighted of them to alienate their existing and potential customers right now.
Agree completely, and it was also just announced that they dropped the air ionizer for the 22 Envision. To be fair, it wasn't a deal breaker for me but for the Chinese market I could see that being vital. One gripe I have is the Intellink system that was included with the '20 Envision. It was the older holdover version which is fine but lacks the resolution of the new edition, which GM did install on some '20 Buick models, including the Encore, Encore GX, and Enclave. Why it wasn't featured on the '20 Envision baffles me.
 

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Agree completely, and it was also just announced that they dropped the air ionizer for the 22 Envision. To be fair, it wasn't a deal breaker for me but for the Chinese market I could see that being vital. One gripe I have is the Intellink system that was included with the '20 Envision. It was the older holdover version which is fine but lacks the resolution of the new edition, which GM did install on some '20 Buick models, including the Encore, Encore GX, and Enclave. Why it wasn't featured on the '20 Envision baffles me.
I saw that! The air ionizer is gone, dark blue exterior is gone, and still no power folding mirrors or Rainsense.

I don't understand why GM would be decontenting something after only the first model year of the redesign. Granted, they did add some new items to the ST package but it was all cosmetic and non-functional (sport pedals, red-stitching on the seats, and ST logos on the floor mats and headrests.)

They should be adding features to remain competitive, not removing features.
 

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I saw that! The air ionizer is gone, dark blue exterior is gone, and still no power folding mirrors or Rainsense.

I don't understand why GM would be decontenting something after only the first model year of the redesign. Granted, they did add some new items to the ST package but it was all cosmetic and non-functional (sport pedals, red-stitching on the seats, and ST logos on the floor mats and headrests.)

They should be adding features to remain competitive, not removing features.
Agreed. At least make a climate package that includes rainsense, weather mats, engine block heater, heated mirrors and blades, and an air ionizer. I bet more, or at least as many, people would flock to that at around $2,200 than the Infotainment II package with navigation.
 

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Agreed. At least make a climate package that includes rainsense, weather mats, engine block heater, heated mirrors and blades, and an air ionizer. I bet more, or at least as many, people would flock to that at around $2,200 than the Infotainment II package with navigation.
Also the 2021 does not have rear set climate controls only the rear seat warmers.
 

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I've seen the new 2021 Envision Avenir and like it very much. Are there any new owners of this car that can share their thoughts on their choice of purchase and talk about about how much discount off MSRP they paid ?? Thanks.
Hello Envision owners !! Please let me hear from anyone who has purchased a new 2021 and your comments on how well you like it. Thanks !!
 

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I just bought one. Actually, I'm leasing it so can't comment too much on discounts, but I don't think they're offering much on these yet. I think the final price was $42k, the sticker was $47k.

I will say I love it. Beautiful interior, quiet ride, adequate/good acceleration, easy to use tech. The only things that the one I bought do not have are auto-folding mirrors and auto-sensing wipers. I find the adaptive cruise to be very responsive. All in all, very very happy so far.
I keep hearing people saying the 2021 Envision Avenir is very quiet. I test drove one for a day and I found it be noisy inside. I could hear road noise, cars acceleration going by. I drove by a semi-truck and I heard the truck's engine very loud, as if I was on the outside of the car. On the other hand I test drove a 2021 Nissan Rogue Platinum; well, the Nissan was very quiet inside.
 

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I keep hearing people saying the 2021 Envision Avenir is very quiet. I test drove one for a day and I found it be noisy inside. I could hear road noise, cars acceleration going by. I drove by a semi-truck and I heard the truck's engine very loud, as if I was on the outside of the car. On the other hand I test drove a 2021 Nissan Rogue Platinum; well, the Nissan was very quiet inside.
We have an '18, you should always take note of the tires. We have Hankook 19", I had brought the car in for regular service but could not wait and the service department is very good where I take and gave me a loaner '19 with Michelin 18" tires. After driving 75 miles I was shocked at how much better the ride and noise level was in the Essence model versus my Premium with just a different set of tires. Tires and the headlights at night are two very important aspects you need to validate before buying.
 

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I saw that! The air ionizer is gone, dark blue exterior is gone, and still no power folding mirrors or Rainsense.

I don't understand why GM would be decontenting something after only the first model year of the redesign. Granted, they did add some new items to the ST package but it was all cosmetic and non-functional (sport pedals, red-stitching on the seats, and ST logos on the floor mats and headrests.)

They should be adding features to remain competitive, not removing features.
It is simple, really, and it has been reported in the newspapers like the NY Times, Wall Street Journal, and Detroit Free Press. Surprised so many missed it as it has been a big story. A chip factory in Japan burned down, and another one is down for repairs in Europe. Leaving a shortage of microprocessors that cars need. As a result, all the manufactures are "discontenting" their cars by removing features that consume chips they cannot get. Ergo, the auto sense intermittent wipers. That is gone for now and will return when more chips are available. GM cannot get them for 2021 and may not be able to get them for 2022 so they do without that feature and sell cars with other features they still can get chips for (such as self parking). The ionizer is different - they removed it from the USA as customers here don't really ask for it. In China I believe they are keeping it on the cars there as it is desired with their bad pollution. But the wipers do have a valid explanation that has been posted in the newspaper. You are going to see more of this across GM, Ford, Chrysler, Mazda - basically all of them except perhaps Toyota which has more parts in storage (less Just In Time manufacturing).
 

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Hello All -
I've seen the new 2021 Envision Avenir and like it very much. Are there any new owners of this car that can share their thoughts on their choice of purchase and talk about about how much discount off MSRP they paid ?? Thanks.
HI. Bought 2021 Envision Avenir last week. Satin Steel color. The color is amazing. So impressed w vehicle so far. Looking fwd to seeing what ideas people come up with for customizing. Time will tell.
 

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Also did very well on purchase price in Alberta, Canada as employee pricing promo was on + my wife is health care worker so got another 1g discount. I also did quite a bit better on top of prior mentioned discounts. Very pleased. Basically got an Avenir for cheaper than essence all in.
 

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Hello All -
I've seen the new 2021 Envision Avenir and like it very much. Are there any new owners of this car that can share their thoughts on their choice of purchase and talk about about how much discount off MSRP they paid ?? Thanks.
Greetings Peedue! Did you ever buy the 2021 Envision Avenir? I am also considering buying one but few people commenting online. It would be my fist Buick ever but know little about reliability and satisfaction rate. It would be nice if more owners will write a little about their experience and satisfaction. Nowadays, we can learn a lot from other’s experience by connecting online. Let us know. Kyle*
 
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