Things you don't like about you Envision
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Only driver's side window switch is one-touch up. Otherwise you have to pop the driver's side and it goes up by itself and you are holding the other three switches until you hear the thunk. This is more of a high end, luxury car feature.
The only cheap part on a well made cuv is the steering column plastic surround and the turn signal stalk. The stalk flaps and reverberates after it is return to neutral position. The plastic surround seems to be move around and seems not well made.
The handling of the Envision Premium is very impressive. The AWD system with twin-clutch is the best system next to the Volvo and BMW, but costing much less. So in the $30's you get an active torwue vectoring rear differential that sends power tk the outside wheel in a turn. Something you won't find on a Lexus RX or NX as they are only brake based.
The front end has Hyperstrut which helps with torque steer from the front end under accleration on uneven surfaces. The drive is about as smooth as they come and super quiet. We recently drove a Equinox and Terrain and they were not as nice but they are on similar chassis and tires.
The only cheap part on a well made cuv is the steering column plastic surround and the turn signal stalk. The stalk flaps and reverberates after it is return to neutral position. The plastic surround seems to be move around and seems not well made.
The handling of the Envision Premium is very impressive. The AWD system with twin-clutch is the best system next to the Volvo and BMW, but costing much less. So in the $30's you get an active torwue vectoring rear differential that sends power tk the outside wheel in a turn. Something you won't find on a Lexus RX or NX as they are only brake based.
The front end has Hyperstrut which helps with torque steer from the front end under accleration on uneven surfaces. The drive is about as smooth as they come and super quiet. We recently drove a Equinox and Terrain and they were not as nice but they are on similar chassis and tires.
We like the sliding seat in our 2015 Terrain(leased) and like it even better in the Envision as the seat is split 60/40 making it much lighter and versatile. The 2018 Terrain or Equinox does not offer a rear sliding seat at all. The Terrain and Equinox do offer the front passenger seat that folds flat for more cargo capacity or about 81 cu ft and largest in the segment. Our Envision Premium has power passenger seat and does not fold. All depends on your priorities.
Having spent many hours in the back seat of the Envision it is much quieter than the Terrain and marginally quieter than the Equinox. Both have the same size and brand of tires. The Buick just has more sound insulation.
Having spent many hours in the back seat of the Envision it is much quieter than the Terrain and marginally quieter than the Equinox. Both have the same size and brand of tires. The Buick just has more sound insulation.
I have 2017 Premium II, and don't like the fact that I had to upgrade to Premium II to get all the driver assist safety features, such as lane assist, slow speed auto braking, etc. Premium II also required Turbo and AWD. The Turbo is louder than standard engine, and the AWD is not as smooth as FWD. Going around corners under light acceleration, the AWD shudders. Gas mileage suffers. Around town averages 18mpg or less. Also, would never pay for Pano moonroof again. Vastly overpriced for not much improvement. So pay a lot extra for Premium II, for extra problems.
Next car, which might just be Terrain Denali, will have FWD, standard 4 cyl. engine, and regular moonroof. Or dare I say Ford Edge?
I like the Buick styling better than Terrain or Edge, but The Edge is going to be strong candidate.
Other thing I don't like, auto stop/start. Really sucks. I know, it can be defeated by putting A/C on LO, using manual shift, or feathering the brake pedal. But really-why not a switch to turn off this so-called feature?
Next car, which might just be Terrain Denali, will have FWD, standard 4 cyl. engine, and regular moonroof. Or dare I say Ford Edge?
I like the Buick styling better than Terrain or Edge, but The Edge is going to be strong candidate.
Other thing I don't like, auto stop/start. Really sucks. I know, it can be defeated by putting A/C on LO, using manual shift, or feathering the brake pedal. But really-why not a switch to turn off this so-called feature?
What I don't Like
The price tag to go to premium 2 and get the safety features was steep. It was a small price to pay for the added safety features and it was the car my wife wanted. If you are married you will understand that the ride is much quieter than any other car.
I don't understand that a car in this price range wouldn't have a locking gas tank cover.
Who in the world designed the dash gauges. they put Voltage and Oil Temp front and center and put the gas and heat gauges out of site and unlit in the day time to the far right.
Just curious why anyone would disable anything that improves the poor gas mileage on this car. IF AUTO-STOP gives even a/s mpg, I am all in
The price tag to go to premium 2 and get the safety features was steep. It was a small price to pay for the added safety features and it was the car my wife wanted. If you are married you will understand that the ride is much quieter than any other car.
I don't understand that a car in this price range wouldn't have a locking gas tank cover.
Who in the world designed the dash gauges. they put Voltage and Oil Temp front and center and put the gas and heat gauges out of site and unlit in the day time to the far right.
Just curious why anyone would disable anything that improves the poor gas mileage on this car. IF AUTO-STOP gives even a/s mpg, I am all in
Are you talking about the gas cap? Because if it is, Ford doesn’t as well
Gas Filler
I am talking about the door over the Gas Filler. My VW had a locking cover that could only be opened by someone with the push-button start key standing close.
I also didn't like the Premium requirement (or maybe suggestion). The sales woman didn't tell us and I didn't find out tlll I found it in the owner's manual
I am talking about the door over the Gas Filler. My VW had a locking cover that could only be opened by someone with the push-button start key standing close.
I also didn't like the Premium requirement (or maybe suggestion). The sales woman didn't tell us and I didn't find out tlll I found it in the owner's manual
Gas gauge
I also thought something was wrong with the gauges. At least one needs to see the gas gauge!! It's even more difficult if you are wearing sunglasses.
I think for me at this point it's the value. I mean a Premium II with all options are about 49-50k and know that you can get a CPO or waiting until Buick offers some kind of 15-20% off and all. But at the same time, a brand new volvo XC60 you can get one fully loaded for about 53-55k with a T5 momentum which offers semi-autonomous driving stuff as the option. At this rate Volvo in general do give you more standard safety technologies than the Buick does and the interior is gorgeous. I mean at this point I don't have an Envision and all so I might don't have the right to say so. I'm just comparing it from what the paper says.
I guess we’ll just have to see..... recently the XC60 came back to my test drive list and I know it’s still new and all
This is a good deal if you are out west for a Premium l for $31K if you don't mind a few hail dents. It is actually a couple grand less than a Premium ll that I picked up that retailed for $49,320.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/694507635/overview/
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/694507635/overview/
Everything is great about that car except the ebony interior. That was one thing that I regret about my Terrain because of the black interior
Bought our 2017 Envision Premium II in Oct 2016(Canada). Enjoy the vehicle a lot. Drives nice, runs quiet, makes decent gas mileage. Had to have two tires replaced after 1200 km because they were out of round and had a bad vibration. No problems with the tire since. Have had to replace the Air Cleaner Outlet Duct which we suspect was cracked from factory. Front camera was hit by a rock and chipped the cover; had to replace the camera. Once in awhile the adaptive cruise controls will kick out; have asked to have it checked but so far no one knows what’s going on. But the thing that upsets me the most is that the new vehicle came with a 3 - 4 year old navigation system. Now after a year I am expected to PAY for an update where there is no guarantee is current data. The vehicle has Heads Up display which means I can have the speed limit/my speed displayed on the windshield however, because of the old navigation data, I cannot trust that the speed limits are portrayed correctly. We owned a 2014, 2010, and a 2008 Silverado and not once did we have to update the nav. The nav system appeared to be as current as the date we drove them off the lot. A couple of last things, priced out a new windshield and because of the heads-up display and the rain-sense wipers we could be looking at around $1000(CDN) and when needing new tires we will have to include the tire pressure sensors since some insurance companies can use it as an excuse to provide coverage should the vehicle be involved in an accident. Other then that, I really enjoy the vehicle, lol.
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I have gotten used to the gauges and actually think it has the most thorough display of gauges of any car I have owned. Yes, I agree they should have swapped the fuel and temp for the other two. It would have at least made it easier and more accurate to view how much fuel is left.
We have a Premium model and I have been switching between midgrade and premium fuel. I have yet to try regular as I am afraid of pre ignition and knocking (can result in piston damage). So far it uses far less fuel than the car we traded (v6), I have been getting 25-33 mpg so I have not been upset about the fuel costs. Stay tuned, I will check back if the fuel goes up much beyond current rates.
We have a Premium model and I have been switching between midgrade and premium fuel. I have yet to try regular as I am afraid of pre ignition and knocking (can result in piston damage). So far it uses far less fuel than the car we traded (v6), I have been getting 25-33 mpg so I have not been upset about the fuel costs. Stay tuned, I will check back if the fuel goes up much beyond current rates.
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This is a very minor issue, and I don't know that I would call it a complaint. But in our Enclave, the second row bucket seats flipped up which provided for a flatter cargo area. The cargo area in the Envision isn't quite as flat. Not really a big deal to me, but just something I noticed.
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Just the low speed shutter when accelerating. Apparently there is a TSB out now to fix and I’m going in Monday to address.
Not sure why I’ve read MPG complaints on here. Just got back from a 2 and a half hour drive where I set the cruise at 65. I’ll take 36 MPG with the AC on cruising in the right lane at 65 any day in a 4000 lb AWD vehicle with 260 hp 😎
Not sure why I’ve read MPG complaints on here. Just got back from a 2 and a half hour drive where I set the cruise at 65. I’ll take 36 MPG with the AC on cruising in the right lane at 65 any day in a 4000 lb AWD vehicle with 260 hp 😎
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Because the amount of gas it saves it negligible compared to the annoyance of the feature.
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